arrival or assignment date while performing the same duties under the same rating officials during this rating period. minus nonrated time) will be no more than 12 months (365 rated days). I am waiting on orders to clear and get out. Wrong reason code. Complete the Record: requested from the Department of the Army. A code 04, "Change of Duty" report, is mandatory when a rated Soldier is reassigned to a different principal duty while still serving under the same rater or when he or she is separated from Army service. It may not display this or other websites correctly. As for the non-rated codes, that would come from your next unit. zd{l9j(Y*!MJX[geCP,$Bt'Uj k5v rF/T^}(sBG\}qxOd_4ZBtA The appropriate nonrated, codes (that is, Q for lack of rater qualification, S for school, I for intransit, and so forth) will be used for the nonrated, periods captured on the evaluation. OERs or NCOERs (see paras 18, 333, 339, 349, and 350) along with other types of nonrated time (for example. Raters use the DA Form 2166-8 (NCOER) to provide DA with performance and potential assessments of each rated NCO. hb```f``a`d``| @f@ R>Ln,cf0Q1a I recently received an Article 15 and I am due to ETS in 2 months but my unit wants to chapter me. The rating period begins the day the, Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the, Soldier assumes their new duty position). The intent of this type of report is to give a rated Soldier an evaluation similar to an Annual containing 12 rated months after. everyone involved now is very positive and they are moving it forward I just need to know about the Non rated time and how it relates to retirement. I don't mean any malice to the system and I don't care if other medboards are supposed to take 90 days. Am I missing something or is my rater wrong and needs to change my thru date? 537 0 obj <>stream This situation is allowed by regulation without required reviewer interaction but sends a mixed message to selection boards. There are two problems here. Change of Duty report a. There is no required length or type of nonrated time between the THRU date of the last OER or NCOER and the, establishment of a new rating relationship in order to render an Extended Annual report. Units have to use the wizard to record nonrated time on a form or the form will/may recalculate and overwrite the number of months at time of submission. 49,=VNp!>-LF3j9M-0X#Z)Q%Ofd*nNX k\A,1Z5SU6[Ypq3zPA1@m I just need to know about the NCOER thing and if the medboard process takes to long can I just get out. +z#|sYgY0gS8gZW(|> Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). According to Paragraph 1-1, "The Army is a profession. %%EOF h. uic code . signatures (legally by regulation) but probably more than need to. Missing rated Soldier signatures without any explanation or with an explanation that the CAC doesnt work. $a$gd[ , 1h/ =!"#$% s 2 & 6 F V f v 2 ( & 6 F V f v & 6 F V f v & 6 F V f v & 6 F V f v & 6 F V f v & 6 F V f v 8 X V ~ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ 0 @ _HmH nH sH tH @ ` @ 8 I am being told I will receive a dishonorable discharge. 5OJ QJ ^J h[ 0J CJ OJ QJ ^J aJ h[ 5OJ QJ ^J #h[ h[ 5CJ$ OJ QJ ^J aJ$ h[ CJ aJ 7 g h l OJ QJ ^J hq1V h8 That last element will change in the next regulation release but for now still stands. I just cant physically do anything. This occurs when the rater marks in VII.a. Everyone is real supportive and agrees I should go. All materials contained on this site are protected by United States copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, published, broadcast, or in any way exploited without the prior written permission of Mentor Enterprises, Inc. or in the case of third party materials, the owner of that content. I should just get out. Ron Hite. . xTKSQ?v45diE We also find that many senior raters say DO NOT PROMOTE but mark a 3 or even 2 in the potential box check. 0 I have renelisted to active duty and have looked into OCS which requires the last 3 NCOERs and WOCS which requires the last 10 years. Many of these reports will arrive reflecting for the APFT PASS and no date. I just cant physically do anything. l 4 a ( k ( N o L i s t B ^@ B [ N o r m a l ( W e b ) d d [$\$ O [ b o d y PK ! According to the AR and PAM, it looks like I just need the nonrated codes but my HR ncoic is saying there needs to be bullet explaining nonrated time. I have an annual NCOER due this month and if I get non rated time because I am going through a med board does it move my retirement date? It appears that units are using this when Soldiers REFRAD or ETS. I have refused to get vaccinated for religious reasons. Rating officials and rated Soldiers signing more than 14 days prior to the THRU date. He held 3 military occupational specialties (Field Artillery, Nuclear Weapons Tech, and Ammunition Ordnance). Also, use of Complete the Record for SGT. I was trying to get out at 16.5 and 17 and at the transfer and after the transfer. I was a 1SG for a while and stayed on until I could find a replacement because we had no senior NCOES that were not deployed or deploying. I need out. HVN0#Nq8fY !lV=@]JIZu Can I be forced to purchase an optional Can I be forced to purchase an optional piece of equipment or clothing? I have never heard of the -205 before, so I will give it a look over tomorrow. "The rating period does not meet the minimum time requirements for the specified reason for . Incorrect SSN for rated Soldiers. 0000002424 00000 n endstream endobj startxref Start: Jun 29, 2022 Get Offer Offer Will this missing NCOER cause a problem with applying for either? T i m e s N e w R o m a n 1 A r i a l 1 A r i a l 1 $ A r i a l 1 * h 6 C a l i b r i L i g h t 1 , 6 C a l i b r i 1 6 C a l i b r i 1 6 C a l i b r i 1 C a l i b r i 1 C a l i b r i 1 . hbbd``b`>$C`201210"g0 The FROM, date for these OERs or NCOERs will be the day after the THRU date of the previously completed OER or NCOER, with the rating period beginning the day the Soldier is assigned under an established rating chain (for example, the day, a Soldier arrives at a new unit or the day the Soldier assumes his or her new duty position). As it was said before, your thru date will be the day you sign out of leave, or the last day you worked for your rater. There needs to be an explanation and if needed the lack of CAC can work but Soldiers have the option of ink-signing and this option should be used when needed. Must a Soldier be counseled before separ Must a Soldier be counseled before separation? Course Hero is not sponsored or endorsed by any college or university. My platoon sergeant is now telling me I have to do my NCOER that is due in less than 30 days. This ensures that any evaluation (i.e. There are many coming in without signatures (legally by regulation) but probably more than need to. xref 0000001495 00000 n This is not an official government website. is FAIR or POOR (do not promote, a 4 or 5). Hj0~ T i m e s N e w R o m a n 1 . There dont have to be dates in the blocks; but if there arent, the senior rater must make a mention of their absence. Use of PCS for NCOER is not allowed (although in the form drop down menu). 516 0 obj <> endobj FULLY CAPABLE (or promote) and the senior rater potential box check (Part VII.d.) ssn a3. Wrong reason code. Your senior rater is what counts. (1) In the direct line of supervision of the rated NCO and designated as the senior rater for a minimum period of 60 rated days. (4) Extended evaluations reports that include any nonrated time periods since the THRU date of the previous, OER or NCOER and prior to the establishment of a new rating relationship between the rated Soldier and the rater, require the preparation of a code 10, Extended Annual OER or NCOER (see para 342, months will not exceed 12 (365 rated days) even though the period covered exceeds 1 calendar year. Relief for Cause: for a NCO whose performance warrants this NCOER and has a minimum of 30 days rated time. Wrong reason code. As for confusion you can never have more than 12 months of rated time on an evaluation. Extended months can be any amount between 3 and 12 but no more. I am waiting on orders to clear and get out. My chain of command frequently puts out information after 2000 hours is there anything I can do to get them to do it during formation or a reasonable hour? endstream endobj 520 0 obj <>stream PEB and Disability Evaluation System Overview, Physical Evaluation Board System Overview. SFC (Join to see) the guidance about this issue came out in an ALARC message. }87>F!V>N5ckrtNNLBtm&m]fTL9)53)5 c3k7IFt"bir#?tj^1 LB#Y'o+FJW_LD|$w1*uk;blngb trSq i'rp~}@v%hp0lt;7k@q,qy(r?3(8i%>VPIw;}/B(?Kjz7l?iG\JVvf('- j) 0000002615 00000 n You must log in or register to reply here. Common NCOER Error Codes Common NCOER Error Codes Recently Added Latest articles in NCOER Prepare An NCOER (click the blocks on the NCOER to view info) NCOER FAQ AR 623-205 NCOER Bullet Database DA Form 2166-8 NCO-ER Bullet Examples and Explanations NCOER Appeals Checklist Jg-raAqn6({! Question/situation: I am going through the Medical board process and I'm almost complete. 5OJ QJ ^J h8 The DA Form 2166-8 also provides evaluation information to ensure that sound personnel management decisions can be made and that an NCO's potential can be fully developed. Gents, on my current ncoer I will have two months of nonrated time due to transit and nonqualified rater (new transfer to the unit rear det, then caught up with the forward element down range). Reviewer is a SFC, 1SG, or MSG or MSG (P) not filling CSM/SGM position (see AR 623-3, para 2-8b). What can I do as the commander. HVrF+|"&q*XY%rs`PTJ$ROS.lM=KHV (0IF [!@%Lou1RpLd]%Ox@jR}b&I9)YAhSf.&=030zJ!%e~t~t~}+`t5s"d&(70S%)b`QD(6@eKO\fwShN\7EPuhM@qO :vf q4D`0AjlM | K/mN>c9:0=&J5g|b;9r~VX9 my question. %%EOF date I have a Soldier that arrived at the unit and the BN will not let the Soldier take PTDY for house hunting but they allow everyone else to do it. That meant no one looked at it prior to signature and submission. It appears that units are using this when Soldiers REFRAD or ETS. 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Are you looking for an unbiased outside opinion? (NCOER Counseling and Support Form) with DA Form 2166-9-1A (NCO Evaluation Report Support Form), mandated for use by Standard, reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, Change of Rater, or code 04, Change of Duty, and so forth), will apply on these Extended reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the, "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. There are 8 Codes and reasons for an NCOER submission, can you name at least 4? The period covered on the, Extended Annual report will be longer than 1 calendar year, but the rating period or rated months (period covered. I was in a motorcycle accident and my chain of command directed that I perform over 100 hours of riding mentorship before I can use my cycle again by myself. Do you have a question about Army doctrine? I switched units. Bullets going over 2 lines. Complete the Record, Annual, Change of Rater, etc.) m Standard reason-for-submission codes (for example, code 03, "Change of Rater," or code 04, "Change of Duty," and so forth)will apply on these "Extended" reports that end before the required 12 rated months (365 rated days), even though the "period covered" on the OER or NCOER may exceed 1 calendar year. > T8 \ p B a = = d(8 X@ " 1 A r i a l 1 A r i a l 1 A r i a l 1 A r i a l 1 . For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. When another type of report with an extended period covered is prepared, the standard reason code and reason for, submission will be used (see DA Pam 6233). 365 0 obj <> endobj hZ h8 Extended annuals with more than 12 months in the month block and/or no nonrated codes. Can't find yours or want to contribute. 25W4O, 42A5MA3, and 18Z5PW9LA) If an NCO does not possess an ASI or LI, only a 5 digit MOS is entered - An alpha or numeric entry may be used to denote the last digit of the skill level (0 or O) MOS Skill Level. > ( * ' _ Special Reports: Can you name at least 3 Reason codes for non-rated time? That should also be a change of rater. hTPN0SK4l\tYvB%,MO=V. <<79B0718CA575E44C8CDF5F03974A70F3>]>> 343. Thank you for the guidance 1SG! Reviewers not writing and attaching letters of non-concurrence when the rater and senior rater box checks are inconsistent. hSn0@%@ ifs 9Zb[H_e)s#&6B#,Aq77C!z }:r{G.'/}WpvrJXq9/~v|tm[4gE;P=SE.Q7w%>J=ROoX5'j6M_p{v(n8q)Boc8iSPJAbPiVJj(bO L|1S! + Reviewer is a SFC, 1SG, or MSG or MSG (P) not filling CSM/SGM position (see AR 623-3, para 2-8b). 532 0 obj <>/Filter/FlateDecode/ID[<6FE3C53DA0E19643A834C17A8DCC5D13>]/Index[516 22]/Info 515 0 R/Length 82/Prev 100999/Root 517 0 R/Size 538/Type/XRef/W[1 2 1]>>stream I'm real messed up. arrival in a new unit or position under a rater, unless another type of mandatory or optional evaluation is warranted (for example, Change of Rater, Change of Duty, Complete the Record, or SROption). I have an annual NCOER due this month and if I get non rated time because I am going through a med board does it move my retirement date? The pandemic didn't help things. endstream endobj 522 0 obj <>stream (5) A rated Soldier may also receive an optional Extended Annual OER or NCOER under unique circumstances. The form will let you do this but the policy will not. }d<=OO$C%lMW'BVPDzxqg[tdBD+R \e$yN)U+ "oSMj4h7BfyTdIt] 7h9Cp6@q]4O`#)CJx@yPxdg0. 616 0 obj <>stream o Updates submission and processing procedures of DA Form 2166-9-1, DA Form 2166-9-2, and DA Form 2166-9-3 for Army National Guard noncommissioned officers (para 3-33 and app H). ]"|W~2>6HXg>t].Q\'_[#{>q There's not enough peer input. Amandatory code 03, Change of Rater report, will be prepared when a change of duty also results in a change of rater(see para 340).
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