Perhaps Stevie tried to sneak away. Once Stevie and Chris were naked, both Bennie and Billy claim that Terry approached the boy David had been hitting, told someone to hold his legs and began to bite his scrotum repeatedly and stab at his groin. RIDGE: OKAY, WHEN YOU WENT DOWN THERE WHO ALL WENT WITH YOU MOST THE TIME? the tying up is part of what frames this as a punishment that crossed the line. After an altercation with his wife, Pam Hobbs, wherein he reportedly hit her, he shot his brother-in-law. In LGs interviews of what he did that afternoon, he repeatedly contradicts himself. In other words, a bite on Stevies face would likely mean that his perpetrator was a parent or step-parent. Have you ever been called the Queer Pepsi One of them even went up and knocked on the door and spoke to Michaels sister, Dawn. RIDGE OKAY, NOW THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH HIS AUNT WHAT IS HER NAME AGAIN? RIDGE IRENE SHE TOLD YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAY THE KIDS WERE MURDERED? As he tied up Michael, he further demonstrated to them how to tie up the others in the same consistent manner. If Terry truly had bitten and stabbed Chris scrotum, it would explain perfectly the questions around Chris death. Really?? What this shows us is that Jacoby knows the truth. hobbs is high on my list, but with what we know (or lack thereof,) there's simply no way to say anyone is "for sure" guilty in this case. If the purpose in stripping the boys was to demean and humiliate them, then Terry would have wanted them to be conscious while he did it. Since Stevie was Terrys stepchild, its possible that Terry wanted to depersonalize Stevies face, which could make it easier for him to carry out the attack on him. This is actually supported by various testimony, which I will bring up later. Jared: When they [the police] met you at the restaurant, was it just closer to meet you there as opposed to going to the neighborhood?, Hobbs: Thats where we called them from, so we knew they would be coming up somewhere near there.. In addition to the Ballard sighting, there is more evidence that supports the boys were with Terry around 5pm. Its also interesting that Narlene is claiming that Damiens mother is lying about Damien being with her. In that letter is a story about four men going to the woods, smoking marijuana and possibly engaging in sexual activity. One of the mysteries of this crime is the location of the bodies in the drainage ditch. In the beginning I thought it was TH. 2, 2019 at 4:53 PM PDT. Keep in mind as well, that the Flash Market/Landromat on Ingram was only a few minutes drive away from the Byers home on 14th. Basically, anything that both sides agree with I consider to be a fact because its gone undisputed. : de-gloving, was because of animal predation that occurred after death. This would have allowed the four men approx. He systematically destroyed every member of his family, traumatizing them with years of extreme sexual abuse/grooming and beatings. And even if he did work the day of the 5th, its the late afternoon/night that is important. One woman, in particular, saw the boys inside the woods from her truck when traffic has slowed. However, is it simply a coincidence that the statements that Aaron told police in 1993 coincide so perfectly with the alleged confessions that Buddy and LG made in 1994 and were later retold in 2012? And the 90s. Terry Hobbs grew up working for his dad as a butcher; his job was to tie up cattle and hogs, transport them, butcher them and to possible even prepare and bind the meat. With what we know about Stevie and how much he feared Terry, it seems impossible that Stevie would have been the child who kicked Terry. Whats more suspicious, is that Buddy originally told police that he was with his family barbecuing on the 5th but when his mother spoke to Fogelman, she never mentions anything about Buddy being home with her that night. For years, the stepfather of one of the three children killed in West Memphis, Arkansas, has maintained his innocence, despite public outcry to investigate him. Stevie knew Terry well. RIDGE: DID YOU EVER TELL ANYDODY ABOUT IT? Again, Ill let you decide. The boys were not simply tossed in, but carried down the ditch and methodically pushed deep into the mud so they wouldnt float. It is my opinion that the answers to many of the questions of what happened that night, will be answered here. Upon the delivery, I saw Mr. Hobbs holding hands with the same man who he was at my house with on May 5, 1993. If LG had been dropped off at home at 4:30, surely he would have changed out of his shirt and tie by 9pm. If Terry wanted things to turn sexual, his predatory mind would have thought of ways to lead things in that direction. I think those questions have easy answers. Now Im back to believing it was TH. West Memphis Three. John Douglas claimed to have searched murders all over the world and could not identityone other timethat this method of tying someone up was used. I'm digging into this right now. Terry showed up at his good friend Davids house to drop off Amanda so he and David could go buy marijuana. I believe that Terry intended to further molest and/or harm me because his actions and demeanor indicated that was his goal, but I believe my continued yelling and screaming alarmed him and caused him to run off. These two are pretty clear, I think, especially with one coming from his parents. WAS IT LIKE EVERY DAY OR ONCE WEEK OR JUST FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN?AARON: IT WAS EVERY DAY BUT, IT WAS EVERY TIME, BUT IT EVERY TIME BUT UM, THE FRIDAY. Humiliation is a strong word and punishment for the situation. VICKIE: YES I DO. Otherwise, there would be no reason to hide these items. The West Memphis Police Department and other officials are being accused of stonewalling the release of the evidence for over a year and informing Echols team that the evidence was lost or destroyed. And keeping the knife as a trophy? I feel the reason for this was because Bennie knew no one would listen to him as long as someone else was locked up for the crime. Michael was later stripped, perhaps so he would not stand out. (Dixies statement) When Narlenes husband was interviewed he said he saw two people walking on the service road, but was not sure who they were. I've gone down this rabbit hole time and time again. That leaves many years unaccounted for. This theory was supported by police who were at the crime scene. SO WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? Did TH kill Stevie to "get even" or was it just his rage gone too far? If anyone might know where the boys were going or what their plans had been for that day, it would most likely have been Aaron. And since she couldnt have known this from a sighting, because the sighting never happened, then it must be from some other source. Echols is one of three men found guilty in the brutal murders of three eight-year-old boys in West Memphis in 1993. Both teens allegedly confessed that on the late afternoon of May 5th, 1993, they had been walking around Lakeshore trailer park when Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby pulled up next to them. When the boys were found, along with their clothes the following day, there were two pairs of underwear and 5 socks missing from the crime scene. I dont know. THAT HAD ON THE WHITE TANK TOP. Stevens mother, Pamela Hobbs, worked a shift at the Catfish Island restaurant the day her son vanished. So, here is my theory of what happened. My belief is that these items were used in the clean up. Terry claims that he dropped Amanda off with Bobby, Davids wife and that he and David then scoured the neighborhood looking for Stevie, which makes no sense. According to Bennies statement, Terry stopped for a moment to yell, Im going to teach your fucking ass! The day after the boys went missing before they were even found, Michael Moores parents asked Aarons mother, Vickie Hutchinson, if Aaron could be removed from school to help find the boys. HE TOLD THE REST OF THE MEN TO HOLD THEM OR SOMETHING AND PROBABLY DID IT. . He told the exact same story even though the two men were not in prison together. The question about Terry having a drug dealer name Ray could also possibly be significant. They would watch the men as they smoked marijuana and engaged in sexual activity. Tragically, for all involved, no one seemed interested or would return their calls. Additionally, there is an ample amount of evidence, in my opinion, that Terry might have sexually abused all of his children. From there, the police focused on finding clothes, speaking with the families, taping off the area, etc and possibly some small searching of the area. He did not say anything to me. He flipped flopped between being at home with his mother and being at his friend Richards house from 5:30-9pm. LG, as well, had raised some suspicions himself by carrying on an unusual relationship with a much older man. VICKIE: UM, WEST MEMPHIS POLICE HAD ALL OF THE AREA ROPED OFF, VICKIE: I WENT TO THE DEAD END IT WAS YOU KNOW. After Terrys attack on Michael, I believe Terry left him on the ground unconscious. The reason for this is because LG lived very close to both the Byers and the Moores. Chris had bruises on his inner and outer thigh, indicating that he WAS held down and his legs were held apart. I'm a parent now and that's why this case has been glued in my mind. Facebook. Press J to jump to the feed. 9pm at night, and according to her, he was wearing a white shirt and tie. Whats peculiar is that Michael Moore was somewhat further away from Stevie and Chris, and that the location of the bodies was actually around 20 feet south of the suspected murder location. Hobbs, with the help of an author, put all that journaling into a book about the 1993 murders of his stepson Stevie Branch, and Branch's friends Michael Moore and Chris Byers. David Jacoby lived on 17th between 14th and Ingram. Sound like way to describe some ritual, smoke signal, face paint stuff. According to his cousin, Rex, this was not true. Terry Hobbs would later state that he shot Jackie Jr. in self-defense. I also believe that Stevie was punched by the teenage boys, mostly by LG, but for the most part, and according to the confessions they mostly restrained him. What is stranger, and in complete contrast to what was previously said, David also claims that he and Terry were out searching the streets for Stevie before dark. Pam Hobbs, with husband, Terry, hopes people will remember the life . She tells police that LG said to her,dont tell police you saw Damien on the service road or you will get in trouble. The interesting thing is that Terry had to pick up Pam from work at 9pm, so theres no way he would have had time to go check the woods at that time. (1) Strangely, Buddy first says that he has a man who will testify that he worked with Buddy all that day and then later on in the conversation, Buddy claims that his boss will testify that he was at work on the 5th. I believe its likely that LG and Buddy most likely used only their fists to hit the boys. In 1993, he was married to Pamela Hobbs and was the step father of Stevie Branch. If the theory of Terry and David leaving West Memphis and heading to Lakeshore trailer park at 5:45 is true, then Terry and David could have theoretically ran into Buddy Lucas and LG Hollingsworth sometime around 6pm, since both LG and Buddy were last seen at Lakeshore that afternoon. And uh Steve was suppose to come by (not audible) before dark I thank it was bout yeah it was bout this time a year it git dark around 8 oclock or so, and he said he told em to be back before dark. And, strangely enough, LGs alleged confession also show that the first boy (Michael) was hit with force two or three times, supporting both the autopsy and what is seen from the autopsy photos. RIDGE: SO HOW ABOUT DO YOU KNOW STEVE, DID HE EVER GO DOWN THERE WITH YOU? That he was still wearing the same clothes is very telling. Those who believe they are innocent claim it was a witch hunt due to Satanic Panic. Terry Hobbs was basically unaccounted for from 5pm to approx. After Terrys attack on Chris groin, was when, allegedly, David hit Chris till Buddy believed he was dead. When police finally did ask Buddy where he was the night of the 5th, he claimed that he barbecued with his family and then brought over some barbecue chicken to Jessie who ended up not being there. A year or so after Buddy admitted to Bennie of his involvement, he also allegedly confessed to Billy Stewart and described to him what happened. As he jumped up from the fall, he grabbed Chris and apparently hit him with force as well. Buddy as well was involved in the investigation and was under suspicion from his family from the beginning. In FBI profiler John Douglass' book Law and Disorder, he makes a strong case for Hobbs. RIDGE: DOING NASTY STUFF, WHERE DID YOU SEE THEM DOING THIS STUFF? Echols lawyer, Patrick Benca, reviewed evidence earlier this year that was thought to have been lost. The teens wouldnt have minded being asked to wrestle initially and its even likely they would have removed their shirts to do so (especially if LG was wearing a shirt and tie at this time). Apparently, LG walked in and asked for his cousin Dominis telephone number. I was almost 21, a new mom and lived just across the bridge, in Memphis when the murders happened. He was home during the evenings when his wife worked a four-hour shift at Catfish Island. Then he changes his story again and said that Narlene did give him a ride home around this time. I think you're on to something here. Stevie would have then gone home, eaten some dinner and asked if he could continue playing with Chris and Michael. WAS IT LIKE EVERY DAY OR ONCE WEEK OR JUST FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES YOU SAW IT HAPPEN? In his first interview, taken shortly after the murders, he claims he went home in the early afternoon but then changes his story and puts himself in Lakeshore at 4:30. This means that the four could have been driving around the back streets for around 25 minutes and then might have pulled up to the Blue Beacon Woods sometime around 6:40. apparently Terry said just 2 weeks after the deaths that Pam was neglecting her duties as a wife, apparently Terry was jealous of how much Pam loved and gave attention to Stevie. According to Terrys ex wife, Terry Hobbs first wife had claimed in their divorce papers that he molested their son. The problem with this statement is this: for one, Jacoby claims he asked Terry where Stevie was. Coincidence? VICKIE: ANY TIME MY CHILD DIDNT COME HOME ON TIME THATS WHERE I WOULD LOOK FOR HIM, RIDGE: OKAY, YOU HAD BEEN THERE ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS? RIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS? His father, Joe Dean Hobbs, was a minister at the Apostolic Pentecost Church. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. According to Buddys confession, the men then drove him back to Lakeshore and dropped him off. My question is this: If you are of the opinion that the WM3 are guilty, how can you be sure? RIDGE: ALRIGHT, WHEN YOU SAW THESE FIVE OUT THERE IN THE WOODS AND THEY WERE DOING THESE THINGS THAT WERE BAD OKAY WAS THIS AT DAYTIME OR WAS IT NIGHTTIME?AARON: IT WAS BOTHRIDGE: IT WAS EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT NIGHT OR LATE IN THE EVENING?AARON: IT WAS, WHEN EVER WE GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WE WENT THERE ABOUT FOURRIDGE: OKAYAARON: AND THEY NEVER GOT THERE BEFORE WE DIDRIDGE: YOU WERE ALWAYS THERE FIRST. When the boys bodies were discovered, there were found in the Blue Beacon Woods right next to the alleged clubhouse where the boys played. Its not so much what the boys saw by itself, but what they saw coupled with Michael kicking Terry. RIDGE OKAY, THEN HE WAS AT LAKESHORE AND LEAVING TO GO SOME WHERE? Mark took Chris home, spanked him for being in the middle of the street and not waiting at home, told him to clean the carport and left him there cleaning at 5:30. Terrys own daughter allegedly told family members, including her mother, grandmother, cousin and aunt that she had been abused by her dad and two family members even claimed to have walked in on Terry abusing his daughter. This is most likely when Stevie asked Terry if he could continue riding bikes with his friends. When Dixie told her of him coming in to the laundry in the small car she asked if she was sure that it wasnt Richard Simpsons car. He dropped by the other parents home at the first chance he got, made an appearance and a statement that implied hed been out looking for the kids. I just can't get it out of my head. Two private investigators looking into the case on their behalf eventually turned their sights on Terry Hobbs, Steve's stepfather, because his story did not add up -- he had claimed that he had begun searching for the boys at 6 pm on the day they had disappeared when in reality, they had only been reported missing at 9 pm. I also believe this is why the boys got separated. David Jacoby, in an effort to catch one of the boys, fell and skinned his knee and also snapped in his frustration and hit one boy. AARON: UH-UH (NO), BECAUSE THEY NEVER SEEN US. He did not tell me who he was calling, and he did not tell me that Stevie was missing, Pamela previously told investigators. Echols specifically wants the shoestrings used to tie up the victims to be tested at a California lab that utilizes new technology to extract DNA from evidence. I believe that David did ask Terry where Stevie was when Terry showed up at 5:30 and that Terry told him the truth: Stevie was riding his bike and would be back by dark (8pm). According to both Billy and Bennies statements, the four men pulled up to the trailer, bought a small amount of marijuana and left.
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